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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:31 pm

newbie nk tnye??!!! Question Question Question

pendapat ak cmni... motor stended pikup stended,sume stended size spocket 15/43.... TOP 160km/h....... (point penting kt sini pickup(accelerate)+size sprocket=top)..
pickup stended katakan ak bg bintang 6/10..

bile gune blok rebore katakan size 55mm.. pickup for sure bertambah lar kan? jd pickup sekarang dgn blok rebore ak bg bintang 9/10..
sprocket 15/43=top 160km/h jgak...

ape kate kalu dgn blok rebore tp size sprocket kecikkan cntohnya 15/37,so secara automatik pickup akan kurang misalnya jd mcm motor standard,bg bintang 6/10....rasenye top kat sini naik x 180km/h??? reason: walapun spocket dah kecik tp accelerate same je ngan 125zr yg stended...top mesti lg lebih kn??

juz terfikir je..rase2 otai sume cmne..kalu btol,knp?kalu salah,knp?

kalu btol ape yg ak fikir tu, bg mereka yg rase nk top speed tggi untuk long distance tp xnk port blok,cari je blok rebore size 1.5 ke..sgkut pastu kecikkn size spoket n setting mj n pj...terus dpt top...

kalu salah abaikan jeee...haha... Laughing aku terfikir cmni sebb aku punye blok 1.0,yg lain stended sume cume size spoket 15/38 dpt 170km/h.. member aku plak size blok 0.0 sume stended pakai spoket asal 15/43 dpt 150km/h je ...walaupun dua2 pikup yg same,motor pun same2 125zr tp dengan rebore n spocket je dah dpt laju dr die punye....


abg2 yg otai2 sume bg lar pendapat yee..maaf sbb kena bace panjng2 :rabbit:pastu siap ade matematik lg tu.... hehehehehehehe.... cheers tenkiuw......
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:35 pm

kes 1 = blok stendet piston besa VS blok porting supersaiya piston 0.25.. agak2 pikap sape mng??

kes 2 = moto stendet sproket 46 VS moto modi sproket 34..agak2 pikap sape menang?

kes 3 = moto stendet sproket 35 VS moto modi sproket 38..agak2 top speed sape mng??

ayuh mengundi..

p/s: moto stendet adalah kegunaan stendet..tuka sikit2 ikut luck beserta doa insyaallah dpt cecah 180..tp belum tentu dpt maintain 180 kan..

p/s: piston besar..pikap yg bertambah pon tak besa mane pon..unless masuk piston 60mm..mmg terasa gile ah pikap tu..sproket kecik ni boleh tarik pnjang2..dikenakan pulak dgn blok ported dimana response dari 0 ke top rpm cpt..
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:25 pm

alamak, aku rase mcm tiga2 kes spec modi bleh menang..
kes 1; blok modi bleh menang sebab rpm leh run smpai 10k, berbanding blok standard nk smpai 8k pn 'senak'.. lg2 dlm gear 1.. dgn kate lain, piston besau torque lbey tp hp same kot... kot... tatau3..~!! What a Face
kes 2; kes ni agak fight, sbb ratio spoket 46 kaw2 besau tu! kne plak moto modi spoket 34. tp modi biase head skim dan sebagainye, so compression tinggi tu leh aje support ratio spoket kecik.
kes 3; skali lg kemenangan bepihak pd spec modi rasenye.. wlaupn final ratio lbih tinggi, tp kmampuan blok modi run sehingga redline tk dpt dinafikan. spec standed dgn ratio kecik pula seolah2 membebankan mesin utk capai top speed..

wah, bias sungguh diriku terhadap spec modi. dhtu, persoalan tanye mane yg menang pikap, mane menang top. cbe tanye yg low maintenance, ekonomi, power ckup2 tk lbey tk kurang kt semua range rpm; blok standed pilihan saye.
nk sedap lg, perahkan sedikit limau nipispkai head skim + carb z bersame blok standed. eh2, nk modi jugak.. tkleh ke nk bior mende alah ni bahgia dlm keadaan standed..?! silent

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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:29 am

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alamak, aku rase mcm tiga2 kes spec modi bleh menang..
kes 1; blok modi bleh menang sebab rpm leh run smpai 10k, berbanding blok standard nk smpai 8k pn 'senak'.. lg2 dlm gear 1.. dgn kate lain, piston besau torque lbey tp hp same kot... kot... tatau3..~!! What a Face
kes 2; kes ni agak fight, sbb ratio spoket 46 kaw2 besau tu! kne plak moto modi spoket 34. tp modi biase head skim dan sebagainye, so compression tinggi tu leh aje support ratio spoket kecik.
kes 3; skali lg kemenangan bepihak pd spec modi rasenye.. wlaupn final ratio lbih tinggi, tp kmampuan blok modi run sehingga redline tk dpt dinafikan. spec standed dgn ratio kecik pula seolah2 membebankan mesin utk capai top speed..

wah, bias sungguh diriku terhadap spec modi. dhtu, persoalan tanye mane yg menang pikap, mane menang top. cbe tanye yg low maintenance, ekonomi, power ckup2 tk lbey tk kurang kt semua range rpm; blok standed pilihan saye.
nk sedap lg, perahkan sedikit limau nipispkai head skim + carb z bersame blok standed. eh2, nk modi jugak.. tkleh ke nk bior mende alah ni bahgia dlm keadaan standed..?! silent

setuju2!!! cheers pomen aku pun mengeluh...die ckp,dulu2 org dtg bengkel xde pun nk kena buat itu buat ini nk bg sedap...org dulu juz dtg tukar minyak itam n tukar tiub pastu tahan bertahun2 even buat masuk dlm estet...tp motor2 skrg memg xtahan...ade je yg rosak... brg ori yamaha pun dah xde kualiti dah... tgok moto yamaha jenis lame2 jarang sgt jem ke,kena rebore ke...tp skrg mcm dah jd biase sume tu... Evil or Very Mad

jom sokong stndard ramai2 tp elok gak kekalkan toyol2 kt motor tu....juz support jelahhh brg stended...hehehe lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:09 am

otai2 sekalian...
blok+head stendet mendet..
spoket 15-37
just pkai carb keihin+gsket blok 0.3mm
=175km/j rpm kat 8
apew sentuhan terbek tok head n blok aq tok dpt outmeter..?

(budak baru nak blaja)
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:31 pm

erk....salam sume....aq konpius sket la...bnyi kt blok yg mcm api plug x kne tu bnyi pe ek?.. ...pas bwk lju je bile time idle je bnyi bnde tu..sram je nk full trottle lame2....bnyi ni strt mnghantui mto aq pas rebore ari tu... nk kate bnyi ring tp rase cm laen je bnyi die....help plezz...
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:05 am

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erk....salam sume....aq konpius sket la...bnyi kt blok yg mcm api plug x kne tu bnyi pe ek?.. ...pas bwk lju je bile time idle je bnyi bnde tu..sram je nk full trottle lame2....bnyi ni strt mnghantui mto aq pas rebore ari tu... nk kate bnyi ring tp rase cm laen je bnyi die....help plezz...

bb bunyik2 ni ssah lau citer.. nk kena dgar sndri dari motor tu.. bru leh tau.. stakat taip nti lain org bace lain bunyik... hahah...

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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:05 pm

paan1171 wrote:
allz wrote:
erk....salam sume....aq konpius sket la...bnyi kt blok yg mcm api plug x kne tu bnyi pe ek?.. ...pas bwk lju je bile time idle je bnyi bnde tu..sram je nk full trottle lame2....bnyi ni strt mnghantui mto aq pas rebore ari tu... nk kate bnyi ring tp rase cm laen je bnyi die....help plezz...

bb bunyik2 ni ssah lau citer.. nk kena dgar sndri dari motor tu.. bru leh tau.. stakat taip nti lain org bace lain bunyik... hahah...

huhu...bnyi die cmni..."tik tik tik"...haa...cmtu la....sblom mto aq jem ari tu bnyi die lg kuat...pas jlan dlm 4 5km cmtu tros tusss...mti tros...aiseymen... Razz ....ke sbb blok clar lg ek?..
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:27 pm

bukan tik tik tik la...krrriiikkk krrriiikk krriiikkk...

ekekeke...
menurut superjoemanito.. tu bunyi sleeve kasar..mungkin betol jgk..sbb bro baru rebore kan..
mengikut pengalaman aku..piston pin calar..keluar bunyi mcm tu jgk..solutionnye..aku sapu 2t secukup rasa kt piston pin tu..pasang balek..hilang bunyi cengkerik tu..goodluck
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:08 pm

tupai comel wrote:
bukan tik tik tik la...krrriiikkk krrriiikk krriiikkk...

ekekeke...
menurut superjoemanito.. tu bunyi sleeve kasar..mungkin betol jgk..sbb bro baru rebore kan..
mengikut pengalaman aku..piston pin calar..keluar bunyi mcm tu jgk..solutionnye..aku sapu 2t secukup rasa kt piston pin tu..pasang balek..hilang bunyi cengkerik tu..goodluck

owh..nnti aq try wat mcm bro ckap tu...erkk...tp sbenanye dh 4 - 5 blan gak aq rebore tu.. Razz ..time blok 0.0 lg x de pulak bnyi2 aneh ni wlaupon full throttle lame2.. ...nnti aq try uplod bnyi tu dlam ni lau bleh...
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:18 pm

bro2 sekalian..aku ade soalan yang dah lame memusykilkan diri aku ni..Camne ek nak kenal blok 2 Y1 ke Y2?? kalo die tulis 1-1 tu mksdnya Y1 ke?

2) ade ke wujud blok y3, y4 y5?
3) pernah ke kuar model 125z 5 speed?
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:41 pm

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bro2 sekalian..aku ade soalan yang dah lame memusykilkan diri aku ni..Camne ek nak kenal blok 2 Y1 ke Y2?? kalo die tulis 1-1 tu mksdnya Y1 ke?

2) ade ke wujud blok y3, y4 y5?
3) pernah ke kuar model 125z 5 speed?

blok tu..ikut keluaran bro..

yamaha 125Z = Y1 dan Y2
yamaha 125ZR = I1 dan I2..

nk cek blok tu model ape..tgk kt bhgn tepi blok..belah kanan..
125z tak penah wujud 5 speed unless gear 6 terbakar maen gear 5 all the way
tak wujud y3 y4 y5..
rxz pon hanye y1 y2 y3 y4 shj kot..eh..tah..
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:01 pm

tupai comel wrote:
fiq wrote:
bro2 sekalian..aku ade soalan yang dah lame memusykilkan diri aku ni..Camne ek nak kenal blok 2 Y1 ke Y2?? kalo die tulis 1-1 tu mksdnya Y1 ke?

2) ade ke wujud blok y3, y4 y5?
3) pernah ke kuar model 125z 5 speed?

blok tu..ikut keluaran bro..

yamaha 125Z = Y1 dan Y2
yamaha 125ZR = I1 dan I2..

nk cek blok tu model ape..tgk kt bhgn tepi blok..belah kanan..
125z tak penah wujud 5 speed unless gear 6 terbakar maen gear 5 all the way
tak wujud y3 y4 y5..
rxz pon hanye y1 y2 y3 y4 shj kot..eh..tah..

oooh..g2 ke..memandai je kawan aku cakap..nsb baik ade tmpt nak bertanya..thnx bro
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:48 pm

aku da port blok..lps aku port blok..kt blok aku da mcm bunyi piston ring je ?sbelum aku port blok mmg bunyi 2 x kuat sngt pon..lps port mmg ada bunyi skit ke kt blok 2 ??
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:59 pm

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aku da port blok..lps aku port blok..kt blok aku da mcm bunyi piston ring je ?sbelum aku port blok mmg bunyi 2 x kuat sngt pon..lps port mmg ada bunyi skit ke kt blok 2 ??

125zr mmg dah jd lumrah bunyi skit2.. bunyi tu beza bnyk sgt ke ngan sebelum port?
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:01 pm

tupai comel wrote:
fiq wrote:
bro2 sekalian..aku ade soalan yang dah lame memusykilkan diri aku ni..Camne ek nak kenal blok 2 Y1 ke Y2?? kalo die tulis 1-1 tu mksdnya Y1 ke?

2) ade ke wujud blok y3, y4 y5?
3) pernah ke kuar model 125z 5 speed?

blok tu..ikut keluaran bro..

yamaha 125Z = Y1 dan Y2
yamaha 125ZR = I1 dan I2..

nk cek blok tu model ape..tgk kt bhgn tepi blok..belah kanan..
125z tak penah wujud 5 speed unless gear 6 terbakar maen gear 5 all the way
tak wujud y3 y4 y5..
rxz pon hanye y1 y2 y3 y4 shj kot..eh..tah..

btol tu cute squirrel (tupai comel)..haha..smpai Y-4 je.. ntah lar kot2 wujud plak Y-5 keats..haha..catalyct Y bpe ek?
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:42 pm

tupai comel wrote:
fiq wrote:
bro2 sekalian..aku ade soalan yang dah lame memusykilkan diri aku ni..Camne ek nak kenal blok 2 Y1 ke Y2?? kalo die tulis 1-1 tu mksdnya Y1 ke?

2) ade ke wujud blok y3, y4 y5?
3) pernah ke kuar model 125z 5 speed?

blok tu..ikut keluaran bro..

yamaha 125Z = Y1 dan Y2
yamaha 125ZR = I1 dan I2..

nk cek blok tu model ape..tgk kt bhgn tepi blok..belah kanan..
125z tak penah wujud 5 speed unless gear 6 terbakar maen gear 5 all the way
tak wujud y3 y4 y5..
rxz pon hanye y1 y2 y3 y4 shj kot..eh..tah..
catal y3 n y4 je...

erk ambe rase 125z model lame2(keluaran 2001 kebawah) blok y1 y2...125z model baru semua dh versi I xkire 125z ke 125zr..
kalo ambe salah tlg abaikn ye Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:40 am

btol la tu yi tupaijek...
aq pnye 125z tp blok i-1....
thun 2004....


aq nk tnye pomen aq ckap la kan....
piston aq ade bnyi2 mcam ade t'hentak2....
ble start je moto....ade bnyi ring....
skrang pown moto aq msok gear 6 je da lemau....
gear 5 naek 150 km/h....gear 6 je drop 120 km/h.....kalo da lme bru naek....
pas2 dye kate sruh rebore....

rakan2 skalian bley kasi pndapat x...?????
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:14 pm

MaGNum_1721 wrote:
btol la tu yi tupaijek...
aq pnye 125z tp blok i-1....
thun 2004....


aq nk tnye pomen aq ckap la kan....
piston aq ade bnyi2 mcam ade t'hentak2....
ble start je moto....ade bnyi ring....
skrang pown moto aq msok gear 6 je da lemau....
gear 5 naek 150 km/h....gear 6 je drop 120 km/h.....kalo da lme bru naek....
pas2 dye kate sruh rebore....

rakan2 skalian bley kasi pndapat x...?????
buka blok,tgk byk free ke x piston tu,cek ring piston,cek blok ada calar ke x...kalo blok ok,piston fit lg.tukar ring jela....xpon tukar ring piston terus...tp kalo rebore pon lebih kurg je ngn harga tukar ring piston tu...agak2 syg blok 0-0 xpyh rebore lg Razz Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:40 pm

yi_tupaijek01 wrote:
MaGNum_1721 wrote:
btol la tu yi tupaijek...
aq pnye 125z tp blok i-1....
thun 2004....


aq nk tnye pomen aq ckap la kan....
piston aq ade bnyi2 mcam ade t'hentak2....
ble start je moto....ade bnyi ring....
skrang pown moto aq msok gear 6 je da lemau....
gear 5 naek 150 km/h....gear 6 je drop 120 km/h.....kalo da lme bru naek....
pas2 dye kate sruh rebore....

rakan2 skalian bley kasi pndapat x...?????
buka blok,tgk byk free ke x piston tu,cek ring piston,cek blok ada calar ke x...kalo blok ok,piston fit lg.tukar ring jela....xpon tukar ring piston terus...tp kalo rebore pon lebih kurg je ngn harga tukar ring piston tu...agak2 syg blok 0-0 xpyh rebore lg Razz Razz

owh.....aq rase piston xde calar ape2 pon....
tp pston aq da mcam lnggar jek...
bley gyang atas bawah kiri kanan.....
blok aq bkan 0.0..skrang da 0.25....
ok2...thanx la yie....
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:50 pm

kalau piston hantuk head..1k rpm pon da leh barai da piston tu..
bunyi ring je kot..
tak pon bunyi rod goyang..ketok ketok ketok ketok bunyi die..hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:36 pm

rod goyang.? boleh jem ke.? ade tak tande2 awal kalau rod dah goyang.?
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:38 pm

allz wrote:
paan1171 wrote:
allz wrote:
erk....salam sume....aq konpius sket la...bnyi kt blok yg mcm api plug x kne tu bnyi pe ek?.. ...pas bwk lju je bile time idle je bnyi bnde tu..sram je nk full trottle lame2....bnyi ni strt mnghantui mto aq pas rebore ari tu... nk kate bnyi ring tp rase cm laen je bnyi die....help plezz...

bb bunyik2 ni ssah lau citer.. nk kena dgar sndri dari motor tu.. bru leh tau.. stakat taip nti lain org bace lain bunyik... hahah...

huhu...bnyi die cmni..."tik tik tik"...haa...cmtu la....sblom mto aq jem ari tu bnyi die lg kuat...pas jlan dlm 4 5km cmtu tros tusss...mti tros...aiseymen... Razz ....ke sbb blok clar lg ek?..
kalo bunyi tik2 mcm tu try cek kt gasket head,kot2 ada leaking,tiang blok longgar ke,head xikat kuat ke...lg 1,cek kepale plug,kot2 xsmbung ngn btol...
do it yourself Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:16 pm

kalau gasket head bocor, ade minyak itam ke yang meleleh kat area head tu.?
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PostSubject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V3   Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:20 pm

Que Danealle wrote:
kalau gasket head bocor, ade minyak itam ke yang meleleh kat area head tu.?
bkn minyak hitam,tp petrol cmpur 2t...xla smp meleleh,tp ada bsh2 manje je kalo leakking ckt2...kalo dh lame phm2 jela
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