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azdli90 Kadet
Posts : 1443 Join date : 13/09/2009 Age : 33 Location : BEsut+terengganu
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:01 pm | |
| lobang ekzos makin luas making tinggi rpm leh pegi...pikap x bergantung sg pada lubang ekzos tu | |
| | | chocolate Laksamana Armada
Posts : 3215 Join date : 22/03/2009 Age : 38 Location : terengganu,bangi,kuala lumpur
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:06 pm | |
| pikup ngan rpm bergantung kat lubang ekzos ler azdli..selain mende2 lain cam kompression,gearing etc | |
| | | azdli90 Kadet
Posts : 1443 Join date : 13/09/2009 Age : 33 Location : BEsut+terengganu
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:08 pm | |
| yer ker...pikap kat lubang ekzos..aiyark pomen aku cakap lubang ekzos nie top speed jer..masih perlu banyak belajar nie..choco selaen dari tu pe lagi mempengaruhi pikap | |
| | | chocolate Laksamana Armada
Posts : 3215 Join date : 22/03/2009 Age : 38 Location : terengganu,bangi,kuala lumpur
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:14 pm | |
| err berat rider kot muekekekekeke
satu lg berat komponen2 yg berputar..lg ringan lg cepat ler rpm naik-->lagi pikup | |
| | | azdli90 Kadet
Posts : 1443 Join date : 13/09/2009 Age : 33 Location : BEsut+terengganu
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:19 pm | |
| oooo....bagaimaner ngan 21 T??law pakai pikap x??ader perbezaan ngan ratio spoket?? | |
| | | chocolate Laksamana Armada
Posts : 3215 Join date : 22/03/2009 Age : 38 Location : terengganu,bangi,kuala lumpur
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:07 pm | |
| nak amik mudah mende tu mcm spoket gak function dia..tp nnt spoket kene set balik ler | |
| | | azdli90 Kadet
Posts : 1443 Join date : 13/09/2009 Age : 33 Location : BEsut+terengganu
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:47 pm | |
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| | | koie06 Laskar Kelas I
Posts : 143 Join date : 15/06/2010 Age : 38 Location : Lembah Keramat
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:42 am | |
| 21t gigi gear yg ikat kat crankshaft ke?...xtau la...bagus ke tuka bende tu @ same je ngan std nye sbb bergantung ngan setting spocket gak... kalo btol gear tu tuka yg kat crankshaft gigi gear blkg housing clutch xyah tuka ke bro?... sory...baru nak blaja... | |
| | | absolute_ahben Laskar Kelas II
Posts : 894 Join date : 15/09/2009 Location : tc → shh alam → tc
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:32 pm | |
| x yh tuka. hu3. pakai gg gear 21 tuh ley la sumbat spocket kecik2 kt blakang. disadvantage die mangkuk clutch cept bunyi. tp brgantung gk ngn cara ko jokey moto. hu3. sory pendapat 1cent je. noobies lg. | |
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:04 pm | |
| Aku nak mod block angka bertukar 54.7mm (bore) 53.8mm (stroke).
Ade sape2 penah buat tak?
Aku tak nak rebore besar dgn stroke masih 54.7mm (standard) sbb aku nak maintain CC 125. Lebih sikit takpe.
& lagi kalau rebore besar nnt bnyk barang perlu tukar, minyak pun boleh tahan juga kan?? Minta pandangan otai2 sekalian.. |
| | | absolute_ahben Laskar Kelas II
Posts : 894 Join date : 15/09/2009 Location : tc → shh alam → tc
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:26 am | |
| er.sbrnye x phm ape ko cube ckp.nk modi blok 54.7 ke 53.8 ke?sng je.g carik foundri ckp tuka slip.ki3.kn sng.duet pown ready la dlm rm150.laen tmpt laen hrge.kui3. lg 1 klu bore besar ape sngt brg kne tuka?piston ngn ring?bru brpe.bwh 80.tu je la.laen la klu ko nk sumbt blok rxz.kne ttp lubang reedvalve.conrod kne tuka.tu je.piston ngn ring tu wajib la kne tuka.nk besh lg.blok ngn head rxz,piston rxk.ki3.jahat ak ajar bende luar tabi'i ny.ki3 | |
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:44 am | |
| Mcm ni bro..125z standard 53.8mm (bore) & 54.7mm (stroke) kan? Jadi aku nak modi angka bertukar aje dari 54.7mm utk bore & 53.8mm utk stroke. Nilai stroke kalau dapat lebih pendek dari nilai bore lagi bagus die punye horsepower. Kalau ikutkan angka standard tu die lebih kepada torque & penggunaan minyak die pun tak berape bagus. Tapi kalau aku modi dengan spec yg aku buat kat atas nilai CC die ttp sama. & kalau aku nak bore pun aku akan guna spec ni bro 56mm (bore) & 51.5mm (stroke). 126CC cuma lebih 1CC je.. Nilai CC tak mau lebih dari tu nnt jd RXZ lah pulak. 125z tangki 5.5 litre aje bro lainlh kalau 13 litre & aku bukannya bawa racing pun. Aku rasa spec ni kalau long distance bolehlah tp tak tahulah mcm mana die jalan nnt.. Saje nak kongsi & utk buat eksperimen..
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| | | yi_tupaijek01 Leftenan Madya
Posts : 2077 Join date : 05/01/2010 Age : 37 Location : KUALA TERENGGANU-SHAH ALAM
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:37 am | |
| aik?nk tukar stroke jd 53.8mm?heheh...boleh,bro trim blok tu,jd pendek..hehehe,pastu rebore,saiz 1.00...lpas tu,kebabommmm...hahaha aku rs xle r bro,mne leh pendekn stroke sk2 ati je..kalo nk pendekn,mgkin kne tukar rod len yg lebih pendek.. blok rxz ngn 125 beza stroke 0.7 je kalo xclap aku,tu pon dh kne tukar rod... btol ke aku ckp ni? | |
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:56 am | |
| Tu lah nak tahu pandangan yg lain ni, mane tau ade yg dapat & penah buat.. Kalau stroke masih standard 54.7mm tp bore 56mm + 0.7mm, RXZ lah jawabnya. Barang 125z semuanya tukar RXZ. Mana boleh..!! hehe.. CC besar minyak pun boleh tahan juga. Tangki RXZ 13 litre bro.. Napelah engineer yang buat 125z ni tak ikut spt mana nak buat RXZ. Patutnya resultant, bore dibahagikan dengan stroke adalah sama dengan 1 keatas, baru ada speed (horsepower) mcm RXZ!! Torque terlalu tinggi banyak benda boleh rosak.. bunyi longgar sana sini dalam enjin. |
| | | yi_tupaijek01 Leftenan Madya
Posts : 2077 Join date : 05/01/2010 Age : 37 Location : KUALA TERENGGANU-SHAH ALAM
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:38 am | |
| cc besar xsmestinye kuat myk...tgk care gk...aku byk jmp rxz yg myk jimat,ada lg jimat dr 125z stended... engineer dh blaja tingi2,mst ada sb dorg bt mcm tu,dh dpt master,phd dh kot...hehehehe... semua part2 dh ada calculation,material,ketahanan,speed... tp keje manusia,xda la sempurna mane...kn? | |
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:53 pm | |
| RXZ minyak memang jimat bro sbb enjin die lbh kpd horsepower oriented. 125z torque lebih sbb itu minyak kuat dari RXZ. Kalau nak jimat minyak nilai bore kena lbh besar dari nilai stroke utk mendapatkan horsepower (speed).
Sbb itulah aku nak cuba buat eksperimen ni.. nak tgk camana. hehe..
Moto 125z tp barang rxz termasuk carb, minyak die mcm mana bro?? tak sampai beberapa kilometer dh kong padan muka nnt tolak moto.. haha
Ko pakai moto standard kh bro? |
| | | yi_tupaijek01 Leftenan Madya
Posts : 2077 Join date : 05/01/2010 Age : 37 Location : KUALA TERENGGANU-SHAH ALAM
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:13 pm | |
| hehehe...clap tu geng...motor 125z bleh lg jimat kalo pkai karb rxz... skrg stended je,dlu pkai blok saiz enduro,dh port,karb rxz...myk lg jimat dr 125z stended..ngn rxz pon lg jimat...ngeh2...kne cr setting yg btol2 cun | |
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:37 pm | |
| Kalau 125z stendet mmnglh minyak tak jimat sbb torque die tinggi lah bro. Kalau torque tinggi minyak pun boleh tahan. RXZ torque tak tinggi tp horsepower tinggi minyak pun ekonomi.
cth pengiraan: stendet
125z: 53.8/54.7 = 0.98 RXZ: 56/54 = 1.03
Kalau lebih dari 1 makna nya horsepower oriented, tp kalau kurang dari 0.9 makna nya torque oriented.
Note: Engines with long strokes have a lower compression ratio, poorer fuel economy, poor exhaust emissions, greater friction and have crankshafts that are subject to greater destructive forces.
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| | | yi_tupaijek01 Leftenan Madya
Posts : 2077 Join date : 05/01/2010 Age : 37 Location : KUALA TERENGGANU-SHAH ALAM
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:07 pm | |
| kalo 125z yg xstended ,tp ada yg jimat,tp xtrim blok.a.k.a stroke stended,sb ape ? | |
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:25 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:36 pm | |
| Kalau 125z x stendet mst bore die besar kan? Agak2 besar sikit dari nilai stroke stendet 54.7mm. Carb pn kena tukar juga paling tdk pun adjust angin atau tukar pilot & mainjet. Ataupn RXZ lh jadi nya..Bore besar stroke stendet CC die besarlh bro.
cth: 0.7854 x (5.67 x 5.67) x 5.47 = 138cm3 = 0.138 litres = 138cc
Besar lagi..! TZMlh jawabnya..
Selagi resultant bore/stroke = 1 atau lebih, horsepower oriented mcm RXZ 56/54. Spt mana saya kata td kalau horsepower minyak OK tp kalau torque mmng parah.
Kalau motorcross/offroad aka naik bukit lebih oklah. Senang crt aku ambik cth kereta rally setting kompom torque tinggi sbb nak dptkn pick up & cornering.
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:49 pm | |
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| | | yi_tupaijek01 Leftenan Madya
Posts : 2077 Join date : 05/01/2010 Age : 37 Location : KUALA TERENGGANU-SHAH ALAM
| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:27 pm | |
| bro,xle nk bt mcm tu...kalo nk pendekn stroke,agak pyh,n akn mngangu lubng2 inlet n outlet dlm blok tu...1 lg,rod pon akn kkne tukar,sb blok dh kne trim,jd pendek... n 1 lg,kalo xclap aku la,rmai bdk2 jek rod...bg stroke tingi...mgkn power lg bes,xpenah dgr lak yg downkn stroke utk dpatkn fuel saver...kalo dpt fuel saver pon,mgkin minyak kuat....tp kalo bro dpt squarekn bore x stroke,tu pon da ckup bes...mcm motor ss110..bore=stroke. papepon,kalo experimen ni berjaya,aku tumpg gmbire...hehehe | |
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:37 pm | |
| - yi_tupaijek01 wrote:
- bro,xle nk bt mcm tu...kalo nk pendekn stroke,agak pyh,n akn mngangu lubng2 inlet n outlet dlm blok tu...1 lg,rod pon akn kkne tukar,sb blok dh kne trim,jd pendek...
n 1 lg,kalo xclap aku la,rmai bdk2 jek rod...bg stroke tingi...mgkn power lg bes,xpenah dgr lak yg downkn stroke utk dpatkn fuel saver...kalo dpt fuel saver pon,mgkin minyak kuat....tp kalo bro dpt squarekn bore x stroke,tu pon da ckup bes...mcm motor ss110..bore=stroke. papepon,kalo experimen ni berjaya,aku tumpg gmbire...hehehe Kalau pendekkan stroke, block pn kena selari jugalh bro. Potong dari belakang. inlet & outlet masih pada kedudukan yg betul. Stroke tinggi, torque die jg tinggilh. Layan corner bolehlh tp sprint x leh lh bro. Jd horsepower kena tinggi. Ni aku dpt info yg menarik utk rujukan. http://www.flamesonmytank.co.za/Articles/torque.htm |
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| Subject: Re: Korek, Potong, Rebore, Port, Polish Blok & Potong Head V2 Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:11 pm | |
| potong dr blakang?dr head ke dr enjin?stroke pjg,torque tinggi,stroke pendek,high rev,tp torque low... | |
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