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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:54 pm

hery kery wrote:
7th.....
amat sesuai utk mereka yg xckup gear...masuk gear 6 asyik mgerang je
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:49 pm

ni hamba nk tny ni.. Apekebende primary gear tu? Pstu ade 22t la 21t la.. Kala lg berat joki, kene turun lg ke? Cam 22t ke 21t.. Ape kelebihan dan ape kekurngn?
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:11 pm

setahu aku moto yang ader 7 gear nie satu jer.. cagiva mito 250cc.. tu pun kalo tak silap aku la...

chaos... aku pun x tau apa 22t & 21t tu... ekekekeke....
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:22 pm

hahaha..
gear 7...
tggu la aku ade duet juta2 tktau nk wtpe smbil mmpunyai mase lapang yg byk...
ekekeke...
aku cte pn psl aku gi nuntut ilmu(secara teori) dr otai automotif..
primary 22t tu standed 125z kluar kilang, yg telah direka n dipatenkan oleh engineer yamaha sbg ratio terbaik utk ketahanan, efficiency, ekonomi, kesesuaian tunggangan mengikut pelbagai bentuk mukabumi, cuaca, dan sbgainye..
nk design satu gearbox tu je bukan satu kje mudah, kne kire dari segi teori, try n error, prototype, eksperimen n sbgnye..
primary 21t neh plak racing punye, bukan standed stock dr kilang.. direka utk mmberi ratio lg besar supaya kecepatan enjin bekerja bertambah.. thats why pkai primary neh ratio spoket leh lg kecik turun 3-4mata, tp tk kurang pn kt pikap..
pengalaman aku set pkai primary 21t neh; blok modi, head potong, carb z, ekjos standed, rim RB 2.5, tyr depan 80/90 blkg 110/80, spoket 15-35... 500meter dh abes gear 6, speed 170kmh..
ketahanan enjin maybe berkurang la sbb yg engineer kire tu utk bg prestasi, durability, ekonomi yg plg optimum, bukan oberhaul seminggu skali.. at least 10tahun kot..
so, terjawabla persoalan knape engineer jepun pecah kepala nk design 125z, skali smpai malaysia budak2 thp PMR pn leh bikin bg lagi laju..
ketahanan komfem out!!

*more info about primary 21t, plz refer to Perbincangan Sprocket, V2, V3...


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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:27 pm

dh penah post rasenye gmbar2 primary gear 2... aq ksik lg..



lokasi nya ni kt bulatan 2...


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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:53 pm

Ultra-Z wrote:
hahaha..
gear 7...
tggu la aku ade duet juta2 tktau nk wtpe smbil mmpunyai mase lapang yg byk...
ekekeke...
aku cte pn psl aku gi nuntut ilmu(secara teori) dr otai automotif..
primary 22t tu standed 125z kluar kilang, yg telah direka n dipatenkan oleh engineer yamaha sbg ratio terbaik utk ketahanan, efficiency, ekonomi, kesesuaian tunggangan mengikut pelbagai bentuk mukabumi, cuaca, dan sbgainye..
nk design satu gearbox tu je bukan satu kje mudah, kne kire dari segi teori, try n error, prototype, eksperimen n sbgnye..
primary 21t neh plak racing punye, bukan standed stock dr kilang.. direka utk mmberi ratio lg besar supaya kecepatan enjin bekerja bertambah.. thats why pkai primary neh ratio spoket leh lg kecik turun 3-4mata, tp tk kurang pn kt pikap..
pengalaman aku set pkai primary 21t neh; blok modi, head potong, carb z, ekjos standed, rim RB 2.5, tyr depan 80/90 blkg 110/80, spoket 15-35... 500meter dh abes gear 6, speed 170kmh..
ketahanan enjin maybe berkurang la sbb yg engineer kire tu utk bg prestasi, durability, ekonomi yg plg optimum, bukan oberhaul seminggu skali.. at least 10tahun kot..
so, terjawabla persoalan knape engineer jepun pecah kepala nk design 125z, skali smpai malaysia budak2 thp PMR pn leh bikin bg lagi laju..
ketahanan komfem out!!

*more info about primary 21t, plz refer to Perbincangan Sprocket, V2,
V3...

Tq for the info.. So, mcm aku ni berat dlm 83kg.. Head,ekzos,carb sume standard tp blok modi skit.. Nk pkai 22t atau drop jd 21t/20t/19t? Ade ke 19t? Hehe Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:32 pm

owhhh..mcm tu ke ttg primary gear 21T ni...
so kalaw pakai spocket kecik pown still sedap la ronda2 town...
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:42 pm

chaosworld: err.. setau aku cme ade primary gear 22T(standed) n 21T(racing/aftermarket).. lg kecik tk mustahil, tp kne gi tempah sndr kt machinery.. hehehe.. try la bro primary 21T neh, then try nek spoket depan 1mate tnpa kacau spoket blkg.. try tgk ape rase..

babet: rasenye perasaan masih same dgn primary 22T + spoket bsr kot.. cme kalo sprint tu nk capai top speed lbey cpt, rse mcm gear pendek2..
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:51 pm

err..lg kecik mmg dah kene ubah gigi gear clutch kot,mesti gap gigi gear dah lari,nk best hntr 21t n gear clutch ke foundry kasi balance takuk2x tue..
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:17 pm

joe..ko penah ckp dulu masuk 21T ni kne balacekan balik gearing mangkuk clutch..
xberapa igt pe ko ckp dulu...
sbb nanti lame2 akan ade kuar bunyi ape tah ko ckp dulu..balance kn tang mana tu joe..
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:27 pm

ape kelebihan nye kalo pkai primary gear lg kecik?
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:07 am

mcm spoket depan kecik,blkg fix,ratio dr enjin jadi lg tinggi

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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:02 pm

Ultra-Z wrote:
hahaha..
gear 7...
tggu la aku ade duet juta2 tktau nk wtpe smbil mmpunyai mase lapang yg byk...
ekekeke...
aku cte pn psl aku gi nuntut ilmu(secara teori) dr otai automotif..
primary 22t tu standed 125z kluar kilang, yg telah direka n dipatenkan oleh engineer yamaha sbg ratio terbaik utk ketahanan, efficiency, ekonomi, kesesuaian tunggangan mengikut pelbagai bentuk mukabumi, cuaca, dan sbgainye..
nk design satu gearbox tu je bukan satu kje mudah, kne kire dari segi teori, try n error, prototype, eksperimen n sbgnye..
primary 21t neh plak racing punye, bukan standed stock dr kilang.. direka utk mmberi ratio lg besar supaya kecepatan enjin bekerja bertambah.. thats why pkai primary neh ratio spoket leh lg kecik turun 3-4mata, tp tk kurang pn kt pikap..
pengalaman aku set pkai primary 21t neh; blok modi, head potong, carb z, ekjos standed, rim RB 2.5, tyr depan 80/90 blkg 110/80, spoket 15-35... 500meter dh abes gear 6, speed 170kmh..
ketahanan enjin maybe berkurang la sbb yg engineer kire tu utk bg prestasi, durability, ekonomi yg plg optimum, bukan oberhaul seminggu skali.. at least 10tahun kot..
so, terjawabla persoalan knape engineer jepun pecah kepala nk design 125z, skali smpai malaysia budak2 thp PMR pn leh bikin bg lagi laju..
ketahanan komfem out!!

*more info about primary 21t, plz refer to Perbincangan Sprocket, V2, V3...

mcm lebih kurang mto aku je.. tp mto hamba buat blok je skit. tp tayar sim tyre 250 depan blakang.. lebih kurang 600m dpt top 170km/h.. hehe bpe hengget ek natang primary gear 21T ni??
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:42 am

chaosworld wrote:
Ultra-Z wrote:
hahaha..
gear 7...
tggu la aku ade duet juta2 tktau nk wtpe smbil mmpunyai mase lapang yg byk...
ekekeke...
aku cte pn psl aku gi nuntut ilmu(secara teori) dr otai automotif..
primary 22t tu standed 125z kluar kilang, yg telah direka n dipatenkan oleh engineer yamaha sbg ratio terbaik utk ketahanan, efficiency, ekonomi, kesesuaian tunggangan mengikut pelbagai bentuk mukabumi, cuaca, dan sbgainye..
nk design satu gearbox tu je bukan satu kje mudah, kne kire dari segi teori, try n error, prototype, eksperimen n sbgnye..
primary 21t neh plak racing punye, bukan standed stock dr kilang.. direka utk mmberi ratio lg besar supaya kecepatan enjin bekerja bertambah.. thats why pkai primary neh ratio spoket leh lg kecik turun 3-4mata, tp tk kurang pn kt pikap..
pengalaman aku set pkai primary 21t neh; blok modi, head potong, carb z, ekjos standed, rim RB 2.5, tyr depan 80/90 blkg 110/80, spoket 15-35... 500meter dh abes gear 6, speed 170kmh..
ketahanan enjin maybe berkurang la sbb yg engineer kire tu utk bg prestasi, durability, ekonomi yg plg optimum, bukan oberhaul seminggu skali.. at least 10tahun kot..
so, terjawabla persoalan knape engineer jepun pecah kepala nk design 125z, skali smpai malaysia budak2 thp PMR pn leh bikin bg lagi laju..
ketahanan komfem out!!

*more info about primary 21t, plz refer to Perbincangan Sprocket, V2, V3...

mcm lebih kurang mto aku je.. tp mto hamba buat blok je skit. tp tayar sim tyre 250 depan blakang.. lebih kurang 600m dpt top 170km/h.. hehe bpe hengget ek natang primary gear 21T ni??

tk sure bpe rm, ade kt area2 rm30-60..
dh lme dh aku pkai..
tk igt la arge beli dolu2..
hmm, mane bley lbey kurg kurang same; dh 170kmh ko tkleh corner, aku bleh lg.. wakakaka.. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:07 am

giler corner 170 km/h..tu kalo jatuh, nseb bek je hidup.. haha
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:57 am

boleh jer selamat kalo jatuh time cornering.. tapi kena letak tilam yang empuk sepanjang perjalanan la.... ekekekeke.....
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:45 am

pe sbb law kte pusing tayar, rantai kjp kendur kjp tegang ek?
aku da adjust kasi sme,ltk mnyk pon ttp cmtu gak.
tgk sprocket blkg cun lg.ke sprocket dpn da haus?
aku xnk tkr 1set awal2.tggu dkt2 gtt nt..hehe. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:16 am

tgk spoket depan lak,biase dpn yg cpt mkn,klu ok je,mean rantai la,tkr rantai baru Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:12 am

superjoemanito wrote:
tgk spoket depan lak,biase dpn yg cpt mkn,klu ok je,mean rantai la,tkr rantai baru Laughing
ok baby, nt i check! bounce

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PostSubject: spoket depan blakang terbaik untuk stended?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:06 pm

aku skarang guna 14-36. okay ke? member aku gelak kan je dgr Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:27 pm

kalu depan 14 xelok..
pkai je 15...
nantie gearing pendek sgt..

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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:30 pm

bro,xyah bkk thread bru...thread psl sprocket dh ade
sila rujuk sini ye...hohohoho

http://125z.darkbb.com/diskusi-bengkel-diy-f5/perbincangan-sprocket-v4-t1473.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:44 am

bro2 semua...ade nk tanye..psal gear 6 agak blow..
spec mto:
-blok,head,carb stended
-sproket 15-38
-chamber AHM selapis
-kotak angin buang muncung getah je

gear 1-5 tarik mmg umpphhh punye....tp dh msuk top gear....RPM berat..enjin pn dengar berat..
tapi situasi ni tak berlaku apabila sye tunduk...asl ek??
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:18 am

sbb ratio gear 6 sbnrnye utk cruise(maintain speed),
setelah gear 1-5 bekerja keras mencapai top speed/gear.. What a Face
sbb tu biasenye ble masuk gear 6 speed dr 5, speed maybe ade tmbh sket atau tk tmbh langsung n rpm mati, enjin kurang mengerang..
rasenye faktor ekzos chamber tu yg moto ko rpm drop kaw2 tu..(psl spec blok head carb standard)..
carb standard tp mainjet n pilot sumer dh setting blk kn? What a Face
atau pn naikkn spoket sket..
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PostSubject: Re: Perbincangan Sprocket V4   Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:40 am

Ultra-Z wrote:
sbb ratio gear 6 sbnrnye utk cruise(maintain speed),
setelah gear 1-5 bekerja keras mencapai top speed/gear.. What a Face
sbb tu biasenye ble masuk gear 6 speed dr 5, speed maybe ade tmbh sket atau tk tmbh langsung n rpm mati, enjin kurang mengerang..
rasenye faktor ekzos chamber tu yg moto ko rpm drop kaw2 tu..(psl spec blok head carb standard)..
carb standard tp mainjet n pilot sumer dh setting blk kn? What a Face
atau pn naikkn spoket sket..

bro..keadaan mto sy sebenarnya cam ni...kalo duduk dlm keadaan yg normal..x tunduk..gear 5 smpi 140...then msuk gear 6..enjin rasa berat...rpm turn..km/h pn naik sangat2 lambat or kdg2 turun...
klo dlm keadaan tunduk lak...masuk gear 6...meter pegi je...
pilot n menjet x kco lngsung slps tkar sproket n chamber..cme setting carb je..
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