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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 12:46 am

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salam, sori kacau line, nak tnya sket, kalau pakai piston besar(59) mmg bunyi ring kuat ka?? Question Question

ehem2..hello bro..sblm ni aku penah tnye kan..ade bunyi ring ke tidak..
ehem..mmg mcm tu la..
ring tu bergesel..sedang kan piston 0.0000 pon ade bunyi ring..(perlahan)
kalau piston tu besa..maknenye luas permukaan ring yg bergesel lg besa kan..
sbb tula bunyi ring (kuat) kedengaran..
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 10:29 am

absolute_ahben wrote:
bro makne yg lebey tepat tentang over rev?

kalo men drag kt game need for speed,
change gear lmbt..
haha..
tatau aku nk explain theoretically..
ni yg aku dpt:

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Over-rev reffer's to the rpm of a motor after it's peak torque is produced. Such as if a torque curve ends at 12 but the bike redlines at 15, anything above 12 is considered over-rev. When a engine is in over-rev there is usually a drop in torque sometimes quite a significant drop.

However it helps in alot of way's when used correctly for mx riding.

1) it realy helps when your coming into down hill sections because it greatly reduces engine breaking in lower gears and alows you to set up for your next corner.

2) it alows you to stay in a specific gear a little longer instead of just falling on its face and alows you to shift into the power band of a bike, if your bike is tuned right you have two options. either over rev and shift into the power curve of the next gear on shift when you hit the power of a specified gear and drop in below the full power of your next gear.
Its a give and take scenary and both are used for differant situations and riding styles.

You can tell if you are in over rev because you will feel the power smooth out and the torque will fall off a little bit.

In my experience the PC and fmf racing series pipes alow for alot more over rev because the are a bigger expansion chamber and alow for more exhaust pressure there for more H.P.

aaa? bhse inggeris? haih, gi la cari kamus.. Smile
ape tk phm lg sile tanye..
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 2:38 pm

owk.
so care nk bg over rev ny x berlaku dgn menggunakan ratio spocket yg kecil la ek?
sory sye noobies~
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 2:40 pm

over rev tu tarik pnjg2 la..
biase org merembat..gear 3 pon nk tarik smpai rpm 10..
or dgn name laennye..shift gear tak perfect..tarik pnjg2 pon..pastu masuk gear rpm akan drop jgk.keh3..
tarik pnjg2 ni nnt engine blown (mcm need for speed la pulak)
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 2:55 pm

err...
so cmne nk kenal pasti mslah over rev ny?
n cmne nk tawu spocket ratio yg kite pakai tu da ngam2 ho?..
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 3:03 pm

absolute_ahben wrote:
err...
so cmne nk kenal pasti mslah over rev ny?
n cmne nk tawu spocket ratio yg kite pakai tu da ngam2 ho?..

sng je..shifting gear tu kene perfect la..
contoh:
gear 5 rpm 8..shift gear 6 rpm tu tak jatuh..boleh smbung terus smpai rpm 14
kalau over rev..gear 5 tarik smpai 9..masuk je gear 6 rpm drop 8..
masalah nk overcome over rev ni..try la gear kacuk.dgr2 gear 6 rxz rpm die tak drop..
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 3:05 pm

oh ye.biasenye kalau sproket besar2 ni..tak over rev kot sbb rpm tak jatuh.keh3
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 3:39 pm

owh.bru la phm.hi3..
tq bro.sory bnyk tnye.sye bdk bru blaja.hu3.
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 4:59 pm

sproket besar kalo spring klac dh lembik klac plate sng slipped..
kalo klac plate dh abes pn akan terjadi simptom over rev..
so,
pastikan klac plate still meleket/tk licin lg la kalo nk tarik rpm kaw2~
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 5:25 pm

Ultra-Z wrote:
sproket besar kalo spring klac dh lembik klac plate sng slipped..
kalo klac plate dh abes pn akan terjadi simptom over rev..
so,
pastikan klac plate still meleket/tk licin lg la kalo nk tarik rpm kaw2~

ecececeh..mentang2 baru tuka clutch plate..
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 5:26 pm

baek bos.
beres..
=D
da settel prob tuh.
ny bout porting plak.
sye nk porting tuk top yg ley push kaw2 koci.
acceleration tuh x kish sngt.
cz sye nieh bkn jenis yg maen pickup.
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Tue May 25, 2010 5:29 pm

TC boy: haha.. mmg melekat la.. tp spoket kecik+gasket head bocor.. tkde la 'tup tup tup' spt yg diharapkan.. hahaha.. haih~~
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Wed May 26, 2010 6:20 pm

bro ajizaimi: dah masuk reflective warne putih..gambar akn proceed..
bro ultra-z: hehe..dh masuk rflective putih...
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Thu May 27, 2010 1:33 pm

tupai comel wrote:
kirkhamster wrote:
salam, sori kacau line, nak tnya sket, kalau pakai piston besar(59) mmg bunyi ring kuat ka?? Question Question

ehem2..hello bro..sblm ni aku penah tnye kan..ade bunyi ring ke tidak..
ehem..mmg mcm tu la..
ring tu bergesel..sedang kan piston 0.0000 pon ade bunyi ring..(perlahan)
kalau piston tu besa..maknenye luas permukaan ring yg bergesel lg besa kan..
sbb tula bunyi ring (kuat) kedengaran..

bkan apa aku baru lpas overhol, skali potong blok, tukar ring suma, then baru naik bpa hari ja bunyik ring bkan main kuat lagi
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Thu May 27, 2010 1:42 pm

kirkhamster wrote:
tupai comel wrote:
kirkhamster wrote:
salam, sori kacau line, nak tnya sket, kalau pakai piston besar(59) mmg bunyi ring kuat ka?? Question Question

ehem2..hello bro..sblm ni aku penah tnye kan..ade bunyi ring ke tidak..
ehem..mmg mcm tu la..
ring tu bergesel..sedang kan piston 0.0000 pon ade bunyi ring..(perlahan)
kalau piston tu besa..maknenye luas permukaan ring yg bergesel lg besa kan..
sbb tula bunyi ring (kuat) kedengaran..

bkan apa aku baru lpas overhol, skali potong blok, tukar ring suma, then baru naik bpa hari ja bunyik ring bkan main kuat lagi
bunyi ring aku pn kuat gak..huhu
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Thu May 27, 2010 11:16 pm

zr90 wrote:
kirkhamster wrote:
tupai comel wrote:
kirkhamster wrote:
salam, sori kacau line, nak tnya sket, kalau pakai piston besar(59) mmg bunyi ring kuat ka?? Question Question

ehem2..hello bro..sblm ni aku penah tnye kan..ade bunyi ring ke tidak..
ehem..mmg mcm tu la..
ring tu bergesel..sedang kan piston 0.0000 pon ade bunyi ring..(perlahan)
kalau piston tu besa..maknenye luas permukaan ring yg bergesel lg besa kan..
sbb tula bunyi ring (kuat) kedengaran..

bkan apa aku baru lpas overhol, skali potong blok, tukar ring suma, then baru naik bpa hari ja bunyik ring bkan main kuat lagi
bunyi ring aku pn kuat gak..huhu

seriau telinga wa cakap lu, berdesing
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:14 am

err, nk mintak tolong from M125ZC, nk dptkan top speed 140kmh~150kmh meter gps dgn moto kte mcmne ek? (top speed 125 stended xcukup, line putih kt tgh jalan tu xsambung2 pun..) Razz

lgpun moto nie utk daily ride, kejar masa..

tiap2 hari, slalu ulang alik dr rumah n destination paling2 kurang sekali, maximum 4 kali. so, kalau bleh FC xnk lari jauh sgt dr stended.. kalau full tank, beza 10 or 20km dr yg stended pn dah ok..

brape maximum cc yg kte bleh capai dgn blok stended tupai? kalau xsilap, stakat 135cc je kn? budget modi dlm rm300~500 je.. skang spec sume stended lg, spoket je 15-39.. ekzos n carb tntulah kne tkr kn?.. mcm limited je budget nie... kalau blh, tlglah bg idea bernas.. kalau dpt modi, top naek byk cket pn dah cukup ok, asalkan FC xkacau sgt, acceleration pun xlari jauh dr yg current(sbb jmpa byk traffic light)

tp rasanya ini hanyalah mimpi(walaupun budget cukup), FC akn jd limitation kan? xkn nk kne beli kips kot Razz

cara ride- full throttle dr rumah smpai destination(ini kalau btol2 rush, suma traffic light langgar, distance antara rumah n destination= 11km)

thanks kpd sapa2 yg sudi tlg bg idea utk saya kejar masa >.< masa xtunggu kta..
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:32 am

nk laju, minyak save?tongue

blok,carb,ekzos jgn usik...biar standard jer...

-head potong bg compress kuat + minyak save..
-overhaul, sumbat bearing FAG/koyo C3, SKF racing punyer, ape2 high speed bearing yg baek2..sumbat la sebanyak yg mampu...minimum 2biji jerla kt crankshaft
-gear 6 tukar la racing punyer...tak pn kacuk dgn gear rxz...

**nk smpai line putih kt jln tu sambung2 dgn minyak yg tak jauh beza dgn standard, tak dptla bro...biasa nk modi camtu, full tank blh dpt dlm 100km jer...semua tgk setting jugak... tp kalau dh modi blok, takyahla sibuk nk bg jimat minyak...

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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:58 am

vendetta wrote:
nk laju, minyak save?tongue

blok,carb,ekzos jgn usik...biar standard jer...

-head potong bg compress kuat + minyak save..
-overhaul, sumbat bearing FAG/koyo C3, SKF racing punyer, ape2 high speed bearing yg baek2..sumbat la sebanyak yg mampu...minimum 2biji jerla kt crankshaft
-gear 6 tukar la racing punyer...tak pn kacuk dgn gear rxz...

ok.. tp kalau tukar bearing bgus, improvements pun xbyk sgt kn.. tp mmg ade.. Smile

vendetta wrote:

**nk smpai line putih kt jln tu sambung2 dgn minyak yg tak jauh beza dgn standard, tak dptla bro...

kui3, ayat saja2 je tu.. kalau sambung2 line putih kt jalan 2, rasanya xrasa sgt dah tar tu.. mcm nk terbang je.. Razz

vendetta wrote:

biasa nk modi camtu, full tank blh dpt dlm 100km jer...semua tgk setting jugak... tp kalau dh modi blok, takyahla sibuk nk bg jimat minyak...
Laughing
hmm.. tu la, dh agak dah.. kalau muto xbleh ubah, kne ubah diri sndiri la No

ape2 pon, thx sbb bg idea tu.. cheers bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:40 pm

rufaz wrote:
err, nk mintak tolong from M125ZC, nk dptkan top speed 140kmh~150kmh meter gps dgn moto kte mcmne ek? (top speed 125 stended xcukup, line putih kt tgh jalan tu xsambung2 pun..) Razz

lgpun moto nie utk daily ride, kejar masa..

tiap2 hari, slalu ulang alik dr rumah n destination paling2 kurang sekali, maximum 4 kali. so, kalau bleh FC xnk lari jauh sgt dr stended.. kalau full tank, beza 10 or 20km dr yg stended pn dah ok..

brape maximum cc yg kte bleh capai dgn blok stended tupai? kalau xsilap, stakat 135cc je kn? budget modi dlm rm300~500 je.. skang spec sume stended lg, spoket je 15-39.. ekzos n carb tntulah kne tkr kn?.. mcm limited je budget nie... kalau blh, tlglah bg idea bernas.. kalau dpt modi, top naek byk cket pn dah cukup ok, asalkan FC xkacau sgt, acceleration pun xlari jauh dr yg current(sbb jmpa byk traffic light)

tp rasanya ini hanyalah mimpi(walaupun budget cukup), FC akn jd limitation kan? xkn nk kne beli kips kot Razz

cara ride- full throttle dr rumah smpai destination(ini kalau btol2 rush, suma traffic light langgar, distance antara rumah n destination= 11km)

thanks kpd sapa2 yg sudi tlg bg idea utk saya kejar masa >.< masa xtunggu kta..

aku dh check gne 2 gps kat fon aku & gps tracker ...
gps fon mancatatkan 132.8kmh pada kelajuan motor aku 150++kmh
gps tracker aku lak mencatatkan 131.2kmh pada kelajuan motor 150kmh++

meter moto 1st model..
kesimpulannya korang simpulkan la sendiri muahahaha Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:29 am

klo da modal rm300-500...syok 2..
klo meter 125 2,bleh g 2++kmj..
klo da nk laju,minyak 2 parak la ckit..
da jadi kebiasaan..hihihi
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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:26 pm

hahaha.... dah hukumnyer macam tu.. moto power=minyak cepat habis..

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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:45 pm

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aku dh check gne 2 gps kat fon aku & gps tracker ...
gps fon mancatatkan 132.8kmh pada kelajuan motor aku 150++kmh
gps tracker aku lak mencatatkan 131.2kmh pada kelajuan motor 150kmh++

meter moto 1st model..
kesimpulannya korang simpulkan la sendiri muahahaha Very Happy

ak dah test dgn garminXT phone ak, n82.. 150kmh meter motor (2nd model), bru 120kmh meter gps...
nnti ak try lg skali, tkut ada error.. lgpun time nie jalan pn xsmooth sgt + byk keter(kne selit2) + raga xda + ltak phone celah kangkang je + rasanya x full throttle lg.. Razz nk kne naik highway utk next test..


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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:45 pm

ak heran masa ride dr shell tol sg.besi to petronas seremban ak juz topup
rm1 jer minyak...kekwn lain topup spi rm3-4..????
ak maintain 120-140km xlebih....

tp klu ak maintain 160km++ mmg laju jugak la minyak tue turun wakakaka....
dr petronas R&R seremban tue spi R&R jejantas ayer keroh rm4 jugak
ak topup...rs nyer tak jauh sgt perjalanan....

blok port/head skim/carb rxz/piston 0.50(calar).....pilot 30 mainjet 200
ejos stended/2t quicksilver/bukaan 2t 6-7 benang...kotak angin ader
tp lapik washer setebal 1cm++....bunyi pun kroohhhh krooooohhhh jer

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PostSubject: Re: Segala Persoalan V7   Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:38 am

rufaz wrote:
man JGN8917 wrote:


aku dh check gne 2 gps kat fon aku & gps tracker ...
gps fon mancatatkan 132.8kmh pada kelajuan motor aku 150++kmh
gps tracker aku lak mencatatkan 131.2kmh pada kelajuan motor 150kmh++

meter moto 1st model..
kesimpulannya korang simpulkan la sendiri muahahaha Very Happy

ak dah test dgn garminXT phone ak, n82.. 150kmh meter motor (2nd model), bru 120kmh meter gps...
nnti ak try lg skali, tkut ada error.. lgpun time nie jalan pn xsmooth sgt + byk keter(kne selit2) + raga xda + ltak phone celah kangkang je + rasanya x full throttle lg.. Razz nk kne naik highway utk next test..

ksimpulannya meter 125z ni xkira la 1st model ke 2nd 3rd @17rd model ke sama xle pki sgt....

makin laju klajuan moto tu makin besar ralatnya...

takat nak nak tau sikit2 tu leh la....

so xya la nak bangga sgt lau dpt outmeter pdahal meter tu xdela sampai outmeter pn..

asal dpt follow kelajuan konvoi ok la bersyukur la dgn pe yg ada..hihih Very Happy
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